Jeff Mills Outsourcing Secrets or John Jonas ReplaceMyself.com?
Now that I’ve had some time to search and study a bit in Jeff Mill’s Outsourcing Secrets and John Jonas’ ReplaceMyself.com let’s distinguish what the differences are between the two.
Jeff Mill’s Outsourcing Secrets is geared toward educating you, not the outsourcer…as opposed to John Jonas’ ReplaceMyself.com which is a resource site dedicated to teaching your outsourcer. Each site does have tools to use for your outsourcer such as Jeff Mill’s 81 Word Press Video Tutorials that either you or your outsourcer/member of your team can log in and view. These 81 videos are broken down into 7 modules for easy navigation and viewing.
Jeff also puts out a newsletter filled with tips and suggestions for your outsourcing project as well as continually motivating you to take action. His is an ongoing coaching program in outsourcing. He also hosts a few seminars each year. His next seminar is called “The Boost Seminar” and will be held in St. Paul, Minnesota (Jeff’s home state) March 19, 20th, 21st of this year. Remember, Jeff said there are two things that successful Internet marketers do:
- they all network by going to these Seminars (the absolutely best place to meet new JV partners as well as bringing people into your existing network.) Your network is your lifeblood and without it you will struggle to succeed.
- they all outsource some or all of their work
A few more things you’ll find in Jeff’s site include:
- A page full of videos from interviews he did on outsourcing and related subjects with other successful marketers. Some titles include: “Affiliate Management using Outsourced Talent” and “Jeff Mills presents the Train My Money Maker System and Blueprints.”
- A page of hiring documents such as a Work for Hire Agreement and Affiliate Manager Agreement.
- A full page of MP3′s to listen to and PDF’s to download and learn from.
- A forum to exchange ideas, ask questions, network with others who are interested in outsourcing. It’s not a heavily active forum…at least not yet, but Jeff does seem to monitor it daily and responds quickly.
- A complete resource page, showing you the tools and systems he uses with his virtual assistants.
Jeff also offers the option of purchasing his “Train My Money Maker System and Blueprints.” Included with this system are 8 Money Making Systems that are essentially a “business in a box” type thing that you give your outsourcer, tell them to watch the videos, read the manuals and implement what they learned. I can’t list them all but here is an example of one: “Affiliate Auto Blogs.” Your outsourcer would learn this system and implement it.
These 8 ready made systems will cost you $249….which I actually think is a very fair price to have something ready to go and start your outsourcing immediately. The perfect shortcut to those who want to outsource but don’t have their own manual or package/system they can hand to their outsourcer.
Replacemyself. com was created by John Jonas a year or two ago to address outsourcing….specifically to the Philippines. This site will be primarily used to train your outsourcer in all the Internet marketing tasks that will be required of him. Included in John’s site:
- MyProjectPlans …this is the area you use to post your projects/assignments and your outsourcer checks in to complete them. This is the only place you should be sending your outsourcers to. Replacemyself.com is not for their eyes, only “My Project Plans” which is an area you will have access to once you join Replacemyself. Your outsourcer can see at a glance what needs to be accomplished. Of course you only have continued access to this as long as you are a paid member.
- Training Modules: You will automatically get the “Welcome” module and one other bonus module of your choice after joining. A new training module is released to you each month and you are allowed to juggle them into the order that you want to receive them. Additionally, you can puchase each module for $97…with each module you purchase you will also receive one month of membership in ReplaceMyself.com. Memberships cost $97 a month. These modules become available for your outsourcer to access in the My Project Plans area. To be honest, I’ve only watched a few of these videos but I’ve read in a few places that they are not the best quality training videos out there. That will have to be your decision
- A complete “Business in a Box” for those who can’t wait to get started but do not own any systems to give an outsourcer.
- Pre-found employees…if you neither want to or don’t have the time to sort out an outsourcer for yourself, there is a section of Pre-found employees that you can hire. Be aware that you will be tagged with quite a substantial “finders fee.” I find this area lacking in choices.
- Access to BestJobs.ph and Onlinejobs.ph…in my opinion this is probably the best benefit of joining Replacemyself.com. Remember I told you in my last post that Bestjobs.ph is no longer allowing anyone to sign up for an account if they do not own a physical Philippine address. No one knows the reasoning for this, but inside John’s site he gives you access to Bestjobs.ph. You also get free access to Onlinejobs.ph which is his own Philippino hiring site that he set up. If you joined each one of these separately, you would have to pay for a membership…with Replacemyself.com it comes free….and, remember you cannot sign up for a new account at BestJobs.ph…this may be your only entrance into that resource.
As you can see, each one of these two membership sites has their place. One to educate, motivate and coach you to outsourcing success, and the other to educate, motivate, focus and coach your outsourcers.
The cost of Jeff Mill’s Outsourcing Secrets is $47 with a free month long trial. The cost of John Jonas’ ReplaceMyself.com is $97 a month. Most likely after the first month or two you will not have to continue as a member unless you want to send your outsourcer to these resources (such as “MyProjectPlans”)…obviously you would have to have a password and log in info to get them in.
In my own dealings and research into Jeff Mills and John Jonas they have come up with high marks in integrity and always over deliver content to their members. But, as always, you must do your own research and make up your own mind if these memberships are what your business needs at this point.
I am interested in what you have to say…so, please take the time to comment and let me know if there is anything else you would like me to cover on these two outsourcing sites.
As for me, I will continue my own study and implementation of these tasks. I am presently searching for my own outsourcers from the Philippines and I will continue to post my progress.
By the way…both of these membership sites have affiliate programs. Yes, I am an affiliate for both, but remember, I am also a paying member of both sites. Everything I said would have been said the exact same way even if I were not an affiliate
enJOY your day and dream about the 4 hour work week
Kathy
Here are the links to Jeff’s and John’s blogs:
John Jonas: http://www.jonasblog.com/
Jeff Mills: http://www.jeffmills.com/
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Hi Kathy,
Great to see you’ve also recommended these two people whom I worked with since I started outsourcing my internet business. I both used their systems and resources until now and I’ll appreciate it more if you could also visit my blog for sometime
and see how I’ve applied their concepts on outsourcing to the Philippines. I do too recommend the Philippines which is a great place for staring up outsourcing your internet business and hopefully, I can get to work with them in more years to come.
See you around and let me know!
Tyrone Shum
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Hi Kathy,
It`s seems more and more online businesses are turning to the phillipines for outscourcing work, i guess it`s just common business sense, especially when the quality of work is just as good as highly paid professionals in the west..(sorry Elance)!
Great post Kathy take care….Ed.
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I agree with Tyrone. It’s great to see Kathy here in her website posting or her blog about the two people. We will know how Kathy distinguished their differences (between Jeff and John) about outsourcing.
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Hi Kathy,
A good description of John Jonas’ Replace Myself.com. I agree with most of that.
I have some experience of using Replace Myself.com. I am a member and have worked with outsource partners in the Philipines on several projects.
I have had 3 part time employees at different times, who I found through BestJobs.ph.
The first one was a researcher, I followed John’s advice and gave her a difficult first task, along with the training materials. She had a lot of problems following the training video, and even though I stepped in to help, she gave up after a couple of weeks.
The second is a programmer who was able to do the work that I want without too much intervention.
The third is a writer and researcher with excellent English skills and who produced good work. Unfortunately she had to give up as she was doing 2 other jobs and had too many other commitments.
I agree that the training materials are not the best, and have been of limited use to my employees. I signed up for the full package so I have them all. However, the materials that were aimed at me were very useful in educating me about how to work with offshore employees.
Access to BestJobs.ph was also invaluable, although John has his own recruitment site now which I have not used yet.
I will definetely work with employees in the Philipines on future projects. This time I will prepare better exactly what I want them to do, and I would tend to go for full time employees, who may be less likely to be distracted by other jobs they have.
Best Regards,
David
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Kathy Dobson
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April 1st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Hi Dave,
wow, thanks for the excellent informative comment. I am in agreement with using a full timer instead of part-timers. If one can’t afford a full timer by themselves probably better to share a full timer with someone else than to hire a part timer for your own use.
It will be interesting to see what I learn in Tyrone’s course. I am really looking forward to taking it….I should be starting real soon!
I hope you’ll come back, follow along and give us more of your valuable knowledge about outsourcing!
Kathy
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Hi Kathy,
I currently have 3 Filipinos working for me part time and so far I’m very impressed with their work. I found the first two by searching *skill* filipino freelancer in Google, and found the last one on http://easyoutsource.com/. You can also try Craigslist.
Also, once you have found your first worker, you could alway use them to advertise on BestJobs.ph (I think I’ll be trying this next).
Kind regards,
David Crowther
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Kathy Dobson
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May 4th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Hi David…It’s always great to hear success stories! I’d love it if you would come back and update your progress with your Filipino workers.
Kathy
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You were mentioned at DCguide.com…
I have reviewed the info. for John Jonas having been introduced through Alex Jeffreys. Looks like good stuff and I thing I will give it a try. Thanks for the info. and into. to Jeff Mills.
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I would love to have someone replace me. But would they be happy with my wife.
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Very cool Kathy, I am just starting to learn about search engine optimization and affiliate marketing, so I am reading every article I can find, thank you very much for yours.
Stacy Renee
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Kathy Dobson
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January 22nd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Hi Stacy…
Good luck with your education…there is a lot to learn online so take your time and get some help when you start to feel those growing pains…
Kathy
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I don’t have anything against Jeff Mills Outsourcing Secrets but I prefer John Jonas ReplaceMyself.com simply because outsourcing your work is a great help for a full time Internet Marketer. You need extra hand in order to manage your online business. You cannot do all the work at the same time and outsourcing your work will help you to manage your time well and setting up your priorities. This would be a great help to seek more business opportunities for your online business success.
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Hey Kathy,
thanks for the post. I will be doing one of these in the next couple of weeks (happy to buy through your aff link too).
So overall consensus from other people who have tried it which one is preferred?
I was initially leaning towards Jeff Mills, now thinking Jonas, though the business in a box that they learn is really cool idea.
Interested to hear thoughts,
Rob
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Kathy Dobson
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April 4th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Hi Rob…
First…thanks that you are considering my link. So many people do not come back to help anyone out who has helped them out. If you do use one of my links I would like to thank you ahead of time and tell you that I will be here for you. If you need any help at all please just email me.
Good luck Rob…I would love to hear your updates!
Kathy
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Hey Kathy,
So I signed up to Jeff Mills outsourcing (I believe it was through your link).
Wow what a piece of crap! Sorry to be rude but it frustrates me when you sign up to something like an outsourcing membership site because you need to get stuff done and it is a massive waste of time!
The membership area is completely disorganised. And when you do get in there it is actually just a bunch of webinars where people that Jeff is affiliated with sell you stuff.
If I wanted to watch a bunch of webinars on outsourcing I would have gone and found them myself, not signed up to a $97 a month program for the special privilege.
I am bitterly disappointed and excited at the same time by this. Disappointed because I thought great Jeff Mills is a big name and I will get a lot out of this, which clearly wasn’t the case.
Excited because if Jeff Mills can make it big turfing out that crap then it really is true anyone can make it big online.
Sorry for the rant but it is very very disappointing especially when we are trying to free our time up and get more done, not listen to Jeff trying to sell us more stuff on entry.
Will give it a couple more days then the cancelling (Sorry Kathy)
Rob
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Kathy Dobson
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April 15th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
HI Rob,
I am truly sorry for your bad experience. Obviously what you found inside this course did not suit what you needed.
Hopefully Jeff honors your request for a refund easily.
I agree that both Jeff and John Jonus’s site could use a bit of updating…especially Jeff’s.
Thanks for your valid opinion.
Kathy
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